{"id":9553,"date":"2013-11-15T19:27:09","date_gmt":"2013-11-15T18:27:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/?p=9553"},"modified":"2013-11-15T19:27:09","modified_gmt":"2013-11-15T18:27:09","slug":"i-am-reading-the-classical-revolution-by-john-bostlap-and-think-about-it-8","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/2013\/11\/15\/i-am-reading-the-classical-revolution-by-john-bostlap-and-think-about-it-8\/","title":{"rendered":"I am reading &#8222;The Classical Revolution&#8220; by John Bostlap and think about it (8)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_9554\" style=\"width: 630px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/files\/2013\/11\/Borstlap-8.jpg?ssl=1\" class=\"thickbox no_icon\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9554\" data-attachment-id=\"9554\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/2013\/11\/15\/i-am-reading-the-classical-revolution-by-john-bostlap-and-think-about-it-8\/borstlap-8-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/files\/2013\/11\/Borstlap-8.jpg?fit=3264%2C2448&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"3264,2448\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.4&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 4S&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1384453042&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;4.28&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;250&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.05&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Borstlap 8\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;This time from the (belated) ICE train from Munich to Wuerzburg&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/files\/2013\/11\/Borstlap-8.jpg?fit=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-large wp-image-9554\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/files\/2013\/11\/Borstlap-8.jpg?resize=620%2C465&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"465\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/files\/2013\/11\/Borstlap-8.jpg?resize=1024%2C768&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/files\/2013\/11\/Borstlap-8.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/files\/2013\/11\/Borstlap-8.jpg?w=2000&amp;ssl=1 2000w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/blogs.nmz.de\/badblog\/files\/2013\/11\/Borstlap-8.jpg?w=3000&amp;ssl=1 3000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-9554\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This time from the (belated) ICE train from Munich to Wuerzburg<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>SEVEN<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><strong>The Cultural Shopping Mall: Pluralism and Choice<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">This is my least favorite chapter of Borstlap\u2019s book so far. Several times during reading I wanted to call out \u201cbut this is complete bullshit!\u201d because of its po-faced preaching of a very vague \u201cspirituality\u201d of things and its depiction of contemporary times in the most simple of manners (Modernism and its ugly stepson Postmodernism are bad,<span>\u00a0 <\/span>New Classic is good, and there is not a lot else).<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">This is the content of the chapter in a nutshell:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst\" style=\"text-indent: -18.0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"><span>&#8211;<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman'\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">Both concept art and sonic art are deplorable, because they understand only the \u201csurface\u201d of things. The same is to be said about Post-Modernism because it makes everything superficial. Modernism was of course already deplorable, and that hasn\u2019t changed.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle\" style=\"text-indent: -18.0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"><span>&#8211;<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman'\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">It is ok to write in a past style if it is \u201cauthentic\u201d (what defines authenticity is unexplained here).<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle\" style=\"text-indent: -18.0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"><span>&#8211;<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman'\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">Ornaments in architecture wouldn\u2019t be so bad actually.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoListParagraphCxSpLast\" style=\"text-indent: -18.0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"><span>&#8211;<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman'\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">Classical revolutionaries are in fact the \u201ctorch bearers of a new musical century\u201d (Page 119)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">Borstlap tries to support these very flimsy and inherently vague statements with the following two main arguments:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst\" style=\"text-indent: -18.0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"><span>1)<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman'\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">In a world of \u201canything goes\u201d (i.e.: now! Boo!) the true meaning of things gets lost, because artists only work with simplified \u201crepresentations\u201d grabbed from the \u201ccultural shopping mall\u201d, which have become de-spiritualized because they are selected only for their material and not idealistic values. Therefore presenting any particular selection from this \u201cshopping mall\u201d is basically meaningless, like random paraphernalia taken from an antique store.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoListParagraphCxSpLast\" style=\"text-indent: -18.0pt\"><span lang=\"EN-US\"><span>2)<span style=\"font: 7.0pt 'Times New Roman'\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"EN-US\">The world has become so shallow and multi-cultural that a concentration on an authentic reinvigoration of your own culture would result in something akin to a healing process. This has also happened sucesfully in history (Renaissance, Pax Romana et al.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">The \u201cClassical Composer\u201d of refined taste (i.e. Borstlap and his friends) seeks instead to <em>\u201ccreate his own inner context based upon the tools of a tradition that suits him or her best.(sic!)\u201d<\/em> (Borstlap, Page 110).<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">And with this sentence Borstlap leads his own argumentation ad absurdum. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">Because I ask you: what is the fundamental difference between somebody selecting a lot of different things from the shopping mall (the evil postmodern composer) or somebody selecting only a few, select things that \u201csuit him or her best\u201d (the good classical composer)? Is there really a difference? <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">Because here quantity a difference doth not make, that much is clear. If I go into the shopping mall of past styles and expressions (something that both postmodernists and new classicals are doing)\u2026. I go into the shopping mall, period!!! I use something that already exists to express something. So why is the postmodernist evil and the classical guy good? Only because the postmodernist has taken <em>more<\/em> things from the shopping mall, has looked at <em>more<\/em> different things, styles and world views? Why is it good (or more worthy) to look at <em>less<\/em>? Wouldn\u2019t being a good artist <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">at any time in the history of music <\/span>also mean that <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\">you are informed in as many musical languages as possible<\/span>, instead of only a select few that you deem \u2013 by a dubious personal choice of pure taste, I might add \u2013 \u201cauthentic\u201d? Mozart certainly was curious about current AND past musical trends all his life, and he was certainly a damn good composer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">Not to be misunderstood: I absolutely agree with Borstlap on one single point: one can use or adapt past musical languages to express something contemporary.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">But I am not so sure if past generations where so much less \u201csuperficially multi-cultural\u201d than our present. Europe especially experienced a lot of dramatic change during the past centuries, an ever-changing influx from a wide variety of cultures and belief-systems. How \u201cdeep\u201d and \u201cauthentic\u201d was Mozart\u2019s understanding of for example African\/Arab culture when he used<span>\u00a0 <\/span>characters like Monostatos or Osmin? How deep was his understanding of Osman culture when he wrote the \u201cTurkish March\u201d? Shallow at best, but this is not Mozart\u2019s fault, but the fault of his times. But he responded to these \u201cmulticultural\u201d influences of his time <em>as they came along<\/em>. And \u201cThe Abduction From The Seraglio\u201d as well as \u201cThe Magic Flute\u201d as well as the \u201cTurkish March\u201d remain valid and exceptionally vivid musical documents of the spirit of their times. And that is the best any composer can hope for!<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">Another mistake of logic lies in Borstlap\u2019s confusion of content and intent. In Borstlap\u2019s view the \u201cpostmodern\u201d composer is shallow because he just presents a materialistic selection of objectified musical styles. His negative comparison in the visual arts is \u2013 of course &#8211;<span>\u00a0 <\/span>Andy Warhol. But does Andy Warhol\u2019s use of images like Campbell soup cans mean that he really wanted the world to be as materialistic and shallow as possible, or is it not rather a reflection of his time by a rather sensitive (by all accounts Warhol was extremely sensitive, troubled and very, very talented in fact) artist? Time has already clearly shown that Warhol\u2019s images \u2013 if you like them or not \u2013 are a perfect representation of the spirit of their times, and in this Andy Warhol has absolutely succeeded as an artist, much like Mozart. His famous Marilyn Monroe portrait says more about the 60\u2019s, the hollowness and exchangeability of stardom and the cult of the public image than a lot of long-winded and boring texts by some haughty philosopher. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">I would call that artistic success.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">Again: showing\/painting\/ composing\/modeling\/adapting something doesn\u2019t mean that you want to be that thing yourself or that you completely approve of it. A novelist also does not want to be a murderer if he describes a murder in his novel, that much should be obvious. But in Borstlap\u2019s logic talking about the shopping mall also means that you ARE the shopping mall, which is a rather weird thought. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">I repeat: to show the horrors of the shopping mall you have to actually ENTER THE SHOPPING MALL (like George A. Romero did in \u201cDawn Of The Dead\u201d, which remains one of the most influential films of the past century and actually becomes increasingly clever, poignant and relevant to our times in hindsight, especially in this currently undead obsessed age). You cannot ignore the shopping mall because doing so means ignoring the world. And ignoring the world means that you put yourself in your own little ivory tower as an artist, which I don\u2019t think is a very healthy strategy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">I could for example envision a very \u201cpostmodern\u201d piece of music with radically changing styles and a very contemporary, yes, even modernist or conceptual \u201cvibe\u201d that wants to express exactly what Borstlap says in his book, and which is a reflection or even a critique of the \u201cshallowness\u201d of our times that Borstlap so laments. Isn\u2019t Picasso\u2019s \u201cGuernica\u201d also a purposefully partially primitivist and crass painting that expresses and exposes exactly these primitivist and crass tendencies in our human nature?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span lang=\"EN-US\">Again, content and intent\u2026..two very, very different things. Welcome to the World. 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